Friday, September 15, 2006

"Reason, in itself confounded, saw division grow together."

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By now you've no doubt seen the headline about the pope angering Muslims. It's a shame that the media hasn't done a better job of giving us the ever-critical context of his remarks--if they had, they would see how childish this criticism is. It would be an indictment of our love affair with multiculturalism--a pathology that threatens intellectual discourse and exchange.

As one friend wrote to me, "I don't think it's an accident that he used as his occasion for this discussion of reason and revelation a dialogue between a Christian and a Muslim -- in which he highlights just how different Islam and Christianity really are. I bet we're going to hear more from the pope about the nature of Christianity (in which revelation and reason embrace) versus the nature of Islam in the future." Bet on it.

Anyway, I was planning on blogging about this speech at the U. of Regensburg because of it lays bare the silliness of those who think that religion (or Catholicism anyway) is not interested in Reason or scientific rigor. In fact, it is precisely this point that leads the pope to criticize the fanaticism of jihadists:
I was reminded of all this recently, when I read the edition by professor Theodore Khoury (Muenster) of part of the dialogue carried on -- perhaps in 1391 in the winter barracks near Ankara -- by the erudite Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus and an educated Persian on the subject of Christianity and Islam, and the truth of both.
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In this lecture I would like to discuss only one point -- itself rather marginal to the dialogue itself -- which, in the context of the issue of "faith and reason," I found interesting and which can serve as the starting point for my reflections on this issue.

In the seventh conversation ("diálesis" -- controversy) edited by professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the jihad (holy war). The emperor must have known that sura 2:256 reads: "There is no compulsion in religion." It is one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under [threat]. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Koran, concerning holy war.

Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the "Book" and the "infidels," he turns to his interlocutor somewhat brusquely with the central question on the relationship between religion and violence in general, in these words: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

The emperor goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. "God is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably ("syn logo") is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats.... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death...."
First of all, as far as the controversy over these remarks, note that the pope is quoting a 14th century emperor--and recognizes that his words are "brusque"!

Now, on to the important stuff...

Re-read that last paragraph--the pope is quoting a 600-year old refutation of jihadism, not on the basis of religion & revelation, but on the basis of Reason!

To be sure, the pope has larger fish to fry (er, so to speak) insofar as he not only wishes to condemn jihadists, but also to show how Faith and Reason are amenable:
As far as understanding of God and thus the concrete practice of religion is concerned, we find ourselves faced with a dilemma which nowadays challenges us directly. Is the conviction that acting unreasonably contradicts God's nature merely a Greek idea, or is it always and intrinsically true?

I believe that here we can see the profound harmony between what is Greek in the best sense of the word and the biblical understanding of faith in God. Modifying the first verse of the Book of Genesis, John began the prologue of his Gospel with the words: "In the beginning was the 'logos.'"

This is the very word used by the emperor: God acts with logos. Logos means both reason and word -- a reason which is creative and capable of self-communication, precisely as reason. John thus spoke the final word on the biblical concept of God, and in this word all the often toilsome and tortuous threads of biblical faith find their culmination and synthesis. In the beginning was the logos, and the logos is God, says the Evangelist. The encounter between the biblical message and Greek thought did not happen by chance.

The vision of St. Paul, who saw the roads to Asia barred and in a dream saw a Macedonian man plead with him: "Come over to Macedonia and help us!" (cf. Acts 16:6-10) -- this vision can be interpreted as a "distillation" of the intrinsic necessity of a rapprochement between biblical faith and Greek inquiry.
The pope is not naive about periods in the Church's history when this vision has gone awry:
In all honesty, one must observe that in the late Middle Ages we find trends in theology which would sunder this synthesis between the Greek spirit and the Christian spirit. In contrast with the so-called intellectualism of Augustine and Thomas, there arose with Duns Scotus a voluntarism which ultimately led to the claim that we can only know God's "voluntas ordinata." Beyond this is the realm of God's freedom, in virtue of which he could have done the opposite of everything he has actually done.
But for those who try to then use these lapses to dismiss religion, the pope says, "Hold on a second!"--our shortcomings don't change the objective Truth:
God does not become more divine when we push him away from us in a sheer, impenetrable voluntarism; rather, the truly divine God is the God who has revealed himself as logos and, as logos, has acted and continues to act lovingly on our behalf. Certainly, love "transcends" knowledge and is thereby capable of perceiving more than thought alone (cf. Ephesians 3:19); nonetheless it continues to be love of the God who is logos. Consequently, Christian worship is "logic latreía" -- worship in harmony with the eternal Word and with our reason (cf. Romans 12:1).
Here's the funny thing...the Muslim world is upset with the pope for what he said, but he has also made a subtle indictment against the tenets of Reformed Christianity as well--and again on the basis that they have bifurcated Faith & Reason:
De-Hellenization first emerges in connection with the fundamental postulates of the Reformation in the 16th century. ... The principle of "sola scriptura," on the other hand, sought faith in its pure, primordial form, as originally found in the biblical Word. Metaphysics appeared as a premise derived from another source, from which faith had to be liberated in order to become once more fully itself. When Kant stated that he needed to set thinking aside in order to make room for faith, he carried this program forward with a radicalism that the Reformers could never have foreseen. He thus anchored faith exclusively in practical reason, denying it access to reality as a whole.
As often happens in history, a swing of the pendulum in one direction leads to a swing in the other:
The liberal theology of the 19th and 20th centuries ushered in a second stage in the process of de-Hellenization, with Adolf von Harnack as its outstanding representative. When I was a student, and in the early years of my teaching, this program was highly influential in Catholic theology too. It took as its point of departure Pascal's distinction between the God of the philosophers and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

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Behind this thinking lies the modern self-limitation of reason, classically expressed in Kant's "Critiques," but in the meantime further radicalized by the impact of the natural sciences. This modern concept of reason is based, to put it briefly, on a synthesis between Platonism (Cartesianism) and empiricism, a synthesis confirmed by the success of technology.

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This gives rise to two principles which are crucial for the issue we have raised. First, only the kind of certainty resulting from the interplay of mathematical and empirical elements can be considered scientific. Anything that would claim to be science must be measured against this criterion. Hence the human sciences, such as history, psychology, sociology and philosophy, attempt to conform themselves to this canon of scientificity.

A second point, which is important for our reflections, is that by its very nature this method excludes the question of God, making it appear an unscientific or pre-scientific question. Consequently, we are faced with a reduction of the radius of science and reason, one which needs to be questioned.
Yet there has been a third phase in our bifurcation of Faith and Reason--the rise of postmodern multiculturalism--and if the pope has made any harsh statements in this speech, it is aimed at the multi-cultis, not at Muslims:
Before I draw the conclusions to which all this has been leading, I must briefly refer to the third stage of de-Hellenization, which is now in progress. In the light of our experience with cultural pluralism, it is often said nowadays that the synthesis with Hellenism achieved in the early Church was a preliminary inculturation which ought not to be binding on other cultures.

The latter are said to have the right to return to the simple message of the New Testament prior to that inculturation, in order to inculturate it anew in their own particular milieux. This thesis is not only false; it is coarse and lacking in precision. The New Testament was written in Greek and bears the imprint of the Greek spirit, which had already come to maturity as the Old Testament developed.

True, there are elements in the evolution of the early Church which do not have to be integrated into all cultures. Nonetheless, the fundamental decisions made about the relationship between faith and the use of human reason are part of the faith itself; they are developments consonant with the nature of faith itself.
He concludes:
And so I come to my conclusion. This attempt, painted with broad strokes, at a critique of modern reason from within has nothing to do with putting the clock back to the time before the Enlightenment and rejecting the insights of the modern age. The positive aspects of modernity are to be acknowledged unreservedly: We are all grateful for the marvelous possibilities that it has opened up for mankind and for the progress in humanity that has been granted to us. The scientific ethos, moreover, is the will to be obedient to the truth, and, as such, it embodies an attitude which reflects one of the basic tenets of Christianity.

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A reason which is deaf to the divine and which relegates religion into the realm of subcultures is incapable of entering into the dialogue of cultures. At the same time, as I have attempted to show, modern scientific reason with its intrinsically Platonic element bears within itself a question which points beyond itself and beyond the possibilities of its methodology. Modern scientific reason quite simply has to accept the rational structure of matter and the correspondence between our spirit and the prevailing rational structures of nature as a given, on which its methodology has to be based.

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The West has long been endangered by this aversion to the questions which underlie its rationality, and can only suffer great harm thereby. The courage to engage the whole breadth of reason, and not the denial of its grandeur -- this is the program with which a theology grounded in biblical faith enters into the debates of our time.

"Not to act reasonably (with logos) is contrary to the nature of God," said Manuel II, according to his Christian understanding of God, in response to his Persian interlocutor. It is to this great logos, to this breadth of reason, that we invite our partners in the dialogue of cultures. To rediscover it constantly is the great task of the university.
And so--how do the Muslims respond to this invitation to dialogue? By banging their multicultural spoons on their collective high-chairs. How sad. It's downright depressing.

...well, whatever it is--it's certainly unreasonable! LOL

6 Comments:

Blogger J. Mark Thompson said...

Have any of these highly offended Muslims actually answered the 14th century emperor's question? I think it's a darn good one myself. Exactly what good and original thing DID Mohammed (devils eviscerate him) bring to the world?

Maybe the reason they find this quote so offensive is that it's easier to take umbrage than to answer it.

1:15 PM  
Blogger Gary Storrs said...

Probably too simplistic a question, but...

If Islam is the One True Religion, repository of all Truth, and the Faith that is powerfully and inevitably rising to take over the world and crush all infidels and unbelievers, why do its adherents go mouth-foamingly bonkers when some devil-worshiping Infidel draws a funny carton of Big MoMo, or when some German guy in red shoes gives a speech they don't agree with? If they have Truth and Eternity so securely by the tail, and the rest of us are just ignorant infidel descendants of apes and pigs, why the Dickens do they care so darn much about what we say and do? Or maybe they aren't feeling quite as invulnerable as they say that they are? Maybe they are really the uncivilized 8th century cowards their deeds and culture show them to be? Just asking...

2:45 PM  
Blogger Quin Finnegan said...

I'm repeating here what I noted earlier at Korrektiv, remarks directed specifically at Juan Cole's criticism of the pope:

I usually steer clear of Time (and her ugly sister, Newsweek), so thanks for pointing out the Manchester Document. Chilling stuff - particularly the degree to which they've studied successful espionage across different cultures, but especially against the U.S.

What I found most disheartening is the heading at the top of a number of pages: "In the name of Allah, the merciful and compassionate". That this should appear, nay, be emphasized in a document so mendacious points to a depth of cognitive dissonance that is hard to fathom.

I'd also like to note, regarding Cole's remarks on Tertullian (as I did here at another site), that the Pope has addressed the point raised by Tertullian and claimed, "I am a decided Augustinian."

Being a big fan of Mr. T. myself (and yes, perhaps more susceptible to the short shrift given reason, not just by Islam, but by Kierkegaard as well) I raised this question myself and received the following answer:

"He embraced the Faith with all the ardour of his impetuous nature. He became a priest, no doubt of the Church of Carthage. Monceaux, followed by d'Ales, considers that his earlier writings were composed while he was yet a layman, and if this be so, then his ordination was about 200. His extant writings range in date from the apologetics of 197 to the attack on a bishop who is probably Pope Callistus (after 218). It was after the year 206 that he joined the Montanist sect, and he seems to have definitively separated from the Church about 211 (Harnack) or 213 (Monceaux). After writing more virulently against the Church than even against heathen and persecutors, he separated from the Montanists and founded a sect of his own. The remnant of the Tertullianists was reconciled to the Church by St. Augustine. A number of the works of Tertullian are on special points of belief or discipline. According to St. Jerome he lived to extreme old age." (www.newadvent.org)

My recommendation to Professor Cole and everybody else is the same I give to myself: read more Pascal.

7:36 PM  
Blogger flingpumpkin said...

A more detailed reading of the popes words hardly makes them more acceptable. It is even more evident what a virulent racist this pope is. He doesn't want to go into details like the diference between infidels and people of the book? What is that supposed to mean? This is the detail: Muslims are not allowed to convert Christians therefore the 14th century quote is completely WRONG and intentionally twisted and racist. It would be better to have quoted the inquisition in which christians forcibly converted muslims and jews. He nowhere refutes the insult by calling it "Brusque" that merely indicates that he agrees with the idea. Pope Ratzinger is a real racist and a real departure from Pope John Paul II who spent a lot of time finding common ground. This pope has, speech after speech, insulted muslims only bringing them up in the context of them being terrorists, or that Turks shouldn't be in the EU because the EU should be christian. Pope JP II had someone in charge of finding common ground between muslims and christians and Ratzinger had him banished to Egypt. He is bringing the church back to it's racist past such as in the days when they supported Mussolini.


Muslims would never insult Jesus or the Bible (both of which they believe in) the pope revels in excluding people, even other catholics

3:27 AM  
Blogger flingpumpkin said...

Here are some things Islam brought the world that christianity waited a thousand years to pick up on
1) The right of a woman to inherit property
2) the right to divorce (which is still illegal in parts of europe)
3) The right to pray directly to god without an intermediary collecting a fee (i.e. the pope)
4) Separation between Religion and Science (Christians are still having a problem with this. first the sun being in the middle of the solar system and now evolution)
5) Alimony and prenuptual agreements
6) banning dowrys from brides to grooms, and reversing it (unlike christians where the bride is expected to pay for a wedding)
7) Acceptance of other religions (i.e. why muslim countries all have christians and jews in them, but Christians seem to have a holocaust or inquisition every time another religion is around)
8) banning of torture (which George Bush seems to have a different view on)
9) fair treatment of prisoners (christianity tells you to kill them and take their wives as your concubines)
10) "god made you from many nations so that you may get to know one another" rather than wiping out american indians, aztecs, mayans, jews etc etc etc
11) Don't diddle little boys
12) No clergy in Islam
13) a ban on slavery (I believe we waited until 1865)

Maybe the pope should convert to islam rather than rob poor catholics blind for his guzzi sunglasses and prada shoes while protecting an army of pedophiles.

3:35 AM  
Blogger SonarMan said...

What planet is flingpumpkin from?

Women have equal rights? I have relatives who live in Saudi Arabia. Women are sneered at, and cannot go anywhere without being escorted by a man, like a dog on leash. Woman are beaten for the smallest of errors. Even though she is a Westerner, she must wear a scarf over her head and face. Many times she has been nearly beaten when the scarf blew off in the wind.

This is tolerance and enlightenment?

What religion forces women to wear uncomfortable clothing from head to toe?

What religion kidnaps people (like journalists for instance) and forces them to convert at gunpoint, and then continue to bind them in torturous positions?

What religion videotapes the beheadings of innocent civilians? Muslim "inquisitions" are ongoing apparently.

What religion commandeers civilian aircraft and turns them into missiles, flying them into buildings?

What religion riots over cartoons?

What religion straps bombs onto themselves and detonates them in crowds of civilians?

What religion desires nothing more than to see the destruction of Israel, who has allowed Muslims to live in comfort and peace beside them?

flingpumpkin, you are so backwards, your inside out. Your hatred of Christianity betrays your true Muslim colors. I think you have pumpkin guts for brains.

8:53 AM  

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